Phase I 

will prepare us to answer the theme question of this site. 

Is Heaven Now??

Topics for Phase One

#1   "Saved" What does it mean?

#2   How Many Saved?

More Topics will be added

 John G Lake - Strong Man’s Way to God p53

If any one wants to analyze the development that has come into Christian consciousness during the last two hundred years, all they have to do is to begin and follow the preaching of the great evangelists who have moved the world. Think of Jonathan Edwards, who thundered the terrors of God and what hell was like until men grasped their seats and hung on to them, fearing they were falling into hell itself. Men were moved by FEAR to escape damnation. That was believed to be Christianity. Why any coward wanted to keep out of hell. He might not have had one idea in his soul of what was the real true earmark of Christianity

After a while others went a step further, and you can note the ascending consciousness. They said, “No, saving yourself from hell and punishment is not the ideal of the gospel. The ideal is to get saved so as to go to heaven.” And so men were saved in order to get to heaven when they died. I have always had a feeling in my soul of wanting to weep when I hear men pleading with others to become Christians so they will go up to heaven when they die. My God, is there no appeal outside of something absolutely selfish?